There is no final fix, no static condition. The nature of having egalitarian commitments is recognizing that the work is never done … The inevitability of that, it’s a little like the Camus essay The Myth of Sisyphus. The inevitability of that doesn’t mean its invalid, it means the struggle continues. You keep fighting for equality because equality isn’t the natural state of human beings; I think that’s in some ways the really profound insight. Inequality is baked into the cake. Inequality and hierarchy are natural, but that doesn’t mean they are right, that doesn’t mean there is isn’t a productive tension between those forces and the forces of equality. You need the horizontalism always present as a challenge, different egalitarian movements or forces pushing and forcing events, if you are going to create this vibrant tension, rather than some end of history equilibrium.
— Chris Hayes